00:00 - Mel (Host)
oh god, mel, everybody. We're not used to when things happen around here, let's, let's be clear everybody here knows that mel is the resident badass.
00:12 - Aaron (Host)
All right, I'm not even front because I'm married to you and like I'm trying to score points or whatever. Come on, I have a sliver and I'm whining.
00:29 - Apple (Host)
I bumped my toe and I'm like my back my pinkies.
00:31 - Aaron (Host)
Mel's like oh yeah, I'm bleeding out of my ear and my eye and I have a headache and I might lose this finger, but let's.
00:41 - Apple (Host)
Halfway through that you're like are you going to make me a sandwich? My pinky hurts.
00:45 - Aaron (Host)
Oh, shut up you're like that I got the sniffles you have the sniffles, you do whatever you don't know. I do know. No, you don't think you do, but you don't. That's true, do we?
01:04 - Apple (Host)
really? I mean, does any, that's true? Do we really I?
01:05 - Aaron (Host)
mean, does any of us really know anything? Do we really?
01:07 - Apple (Host)
know ourselves, because that's constantly evolving by the moment.
01:10 - Aaron (Host)
Hey, hey, something else too. Jonathan Shank is a professional in the industry and, like, has done all kinds of awesome stuff and he complimented my lighting. So I'm just saying Anyway. He did. Here we go. You put a lot of strangers here recording in progress recording in progress recording is progressive.
01:43 - Mel (Host)
It's progressively recording the record of recording us doing the record. Hello, it's Amanda. Hey, it's Amanda from press here. The guy should be joining in just a sec.
01:49 - Aaron (Host)
Cool, I think there's John's phone.
01:52 - Kevin (Guest)
Amazing.
02:08 - Aaron (Host)
Maybe, maybe, so so maybe not can you hear us?
02:19 - John (Guest)
I can actually hear you guys what's up guys?
02:23 - Mel (Host)
you look so cute. Look at the two of you. Hear you guys? What's up guys? There we go. You look so cute. Look at the two of you.
02:30 - Kevin (Guest)
You guys are beautiful as ever, we're trying to impress you guys, because dang.
02:36 - Mel (Host)
You guys have fucking blown up since the last time we talked to you. What the hell, let's go.
02:40 - John (Guest)
What the hell happened, guys? It's been 30 years.
02:46 - Apple (Host)
It feels like it sometimes.
02:48 - Mel (Host)
Well, the last two years have been the fucking, the best man Like dang. I'm proud of y'all.
02:56 - Kevin (Guest)
Thanks so much Seriously.
03:00 - Aaron (Host)
Do you guys have Any plans to come?
03:03 - Mel (Host)
Out this way anytime soon Portland, pacific, northwest-ish.
03:08 - John (Guest)
Well, we're in Washington currently. What, yeah, we played Tacoma last night and we played bands two days before that. Oh, shit.
03:21 - Aaron (Host)
Well, drive down, but we didn't do Portland, though why?
03:23 - John (Guest)
not what happened, yeah, what'd we do.
03:24 - Mel (Host)
Well, we didn, but we didn't do Portland though, why not? What happened, yeah, what'd we do? Well, we didn't. We didn't get no love. Like dude, we could do a fucking. We decided we weren't going to do it.
03:34 - John (Guest)
No, we're on tour with Stick Figure right now. Oh, okay, and so we're just following their lead. And we went through Bend and then Tacoma.
03:41 - Apple (Host)
And congratulations ahead of time on that. I saw that you're going to be playing the Red Rocks with Stick Figure and it's sold out already.
03:51 - Kevin (Guest)
Yeah, yeah, pretty unbelievable, pretty unbelievable. Yeah, that's our next show. It's coming up this week. I mean they've all been pretty incredible. It's amazing to see what these dudes have done for themselves. Stick Figure, like these fans, the crowds. It's really to see what these dudes, uh, have done for themselves, stick figure like these fans, the crowds, it's.
04:09 - John (Guest)
It's really, really impressive. Yeah, it really is. It's.
04:11 - Aaron (Host)
It's a brand new, um, like scale for us that we haven't really seen do you when you guys are getting ready to go play a show like red rocks and do you? Are you approaching it differently than you would a regular Little Stranger gig?
04:32 - John (Guest)
I think only in it's more so on, like the time that we're allotted as an opening?
04:39 - Kevin (Guest)
yeah, also, I think this one this one's a funny one to answer that question because we're having the most people we've ever had on stage there, but it's more because we're excited to be playing Red Rocks and all our friends wanted to come out. So we're going to have two horns players, three backup singers. Our buddy, pip the Pansy, is going to be out there playing flute and doing backup vocals. Fred Hahn from John's Old Band is going to be playing guitar.
05:05 - John (Guest)
Yeah, we kind of like over committed and we're like everyone's coming with no simple road's gonna be in the background doing commentary heck yeah, man that's so cool congrats on all the stuff you guys, like Mel, was saying.
05:23 - Aaron (Host)
The last two years have kind of kind of been a thing. How does it feel?
05:28 - John (Guest)
it's been great, man it's. Uh, yeah, it doesn't. Nothing really feels super different. We're just doing what we always have done for the last seven years just touring our nuts off and trying to put music out when we're not touring. Uh, but it's been great, it's. It's nice to see you know some of the all the years of touring starting to pay off a bit Better venues and you know better shows in general and we're feeling the word getting out there.
05:54 - Mel (Host)
A lot of cool collaborations too, man. When you guys in Frasco like that was, I feel like that needed to happen. You know, you guys getting together and and create like got at a festival.
06:06 - Kevin (Guest)
Come on, that, that's amazing yeah, yeah, I mean we love andy. I think was the last time we saw you guys at peach fest yeah, yes yeah, yeah, yeah peach fest andy I feel like that was a uh tipping point moment even for andy too, that that festival him getting taken to the pools from the stage. But was that the following year getting taken to the pools from the stage?
06:25 - John (Guest)
but was that the following year?
06:26 - Kevin (Guest)
I think that might have been the following year, but yeah, and he says like goose moment, yeah, yeah, it's like a nice, nice tipping, but uh, but yeah, I mean it's uh, he's, he's the best to work with. I love that. He like he loves working with songwriters he's got zero ego when it comes to that part. He's got 100 ego when it comes to everything else. When it comes to songwriting, he's surprisingly uh, very happy to work with everybody.
06:52 - Aaron (Host)
I love that, oh, yes oh yeah so going on tour with frasco um when you were done, were you physically, mentally and emotionally exhausted oh my god.
07:06 - John (Guest)
Yeah, I think we aged like 10 years in a two month span two months well, and it was when, you know, we went on tour with him.
07:16
It was really cool how it worked out too, because we had been trying to get we had been trying to get an opening slot for him for a year or so and at the time his agent we didn't have a personal connection with andy right, so his agent didn't quite get it and you know, it never happened. And then we finally had a personal contact at summer camp. He saw us play and invited us on the tour. Like that night, oh shit, um.
07:41
So two months, three later, we were on tour with Andy, and a week into the tour, kevin and I both got the flu really bad and we've I think it's maybe the second time ever we've had to cancel a show because it was a hundred and three degree fever, like I couldn't perform, so we can't. We canceled one show. We're like man, if we can sleep this one off, we'll meet you in Asheville, I think it's in charlottesville. We had to cancel, okay, and andy being we we didn't know us that well yet we weren't as good of friends as we are now. He was like, why don't you just take the whole weekend off, bud? Why don't you just come meet us on wednesday and like doing it to dig at us, and uh. So then you know we had to live with that for the whole tour, calling us pussies in front of every crowd for the next two weeks. Yeah.
08:30 - Mel (Host)
Oh, okay, just gave them some material is what it did.
08:34 - John (Guest)
Yeah, yeah, but I think in the end we outlasted them.
08:38 - Kevin (Guest)
I think we did a pretty good job. Yeah, by the end they were their age caught up to them. Yeah, their age caught up to them. Yeah, they, I mean they, they're like we're ah, it's so tough, it's so tough. I don't. I don't want to say that we want to or can be equals with their level. Yeah, uh, but I think we, we hang pretty well now, but I also don't think we tour the same anymore.
08:59 - Aaron (Host)
It's like still, we still haven't gotten to sleep it off oh my god yeah okay, you know, we were just, we were just having a conversation before we got on with you guys, um, about, like you know, when you're doing something for a long time, uh, you're on the inside of the thing and I don't know about you guys, but like my expectations of where it should be sometimes get the better of me and like it gets frustrating. And then you hear from somebody outside their perception of where you're at and you're like what the fuck, if that's the way that it's seen like why isn't you know why isn't bigger more whatever? Seen like why isn't you know why isn't bigger more whatever, as you've seen some more success, you guys like have you gone through a little bit of that of like people saying, oh yeah, congratulations on the this, that and the other thing, but you're on the inside of the thing, like what are you talking?
10:00 - John (Guest)
about. Yeah, I totally know what you mean and I I think it with all creatives. There's like a comparative thing that you feel when you see the other, where other people are at, and you think you should be there or you should be deserving of it, and it's hard not to go down that path. But it's funny now, like every time I talk to dad, all he wants to talk about is the band Really, and I don't really want to talk about it all that much. I'm like how are you doing dad? So I don't know. Yeah, let me get some of that.
10:40 - Kevin (Guest)
I was just I forget if it was with Jinji or whoever else, but was talking about how you know, I think there's a thing for a while, just as musicians, your friends or your peers will come up and they'll be like you guys are killing it, Just seeing you touring, the amount you do, and they'll be like you guys are killing it. You're really doing it, you know, and you get those compliments over and over and then, like, the compliments now are from a different uh, either type of people or oh no, oh no, you're good yeah.
11:10
Either from like a different type of person, or they're like re like hyper specific. Uh, really really thought out compliments rather than just like you guys are doing great. They're like like no, I saw this happen and this happened and that happened, and it's like it's like I've for a while tried to brush it off. It's like, oh, it's just, you know, people just being nice to us, people are just being nice to us, and then it's like okay, something's happening.
11:31 - John (Guest)
We uh really should try to enjoy this as much as we can and what we've experienced for the very first time in putting out our uh, our singles on this latest record was the first time we've ever had, um, uh, our fan base kind of like dissect them and people openly say that they didn't like stuff and then leading to a discussion on what they like or don't like. And that was really interesting. How does that feel? It felt really odd, like to put something out and people be like I kind of hate this and but I think it's a good thing, like that's yeah, yeah, you have your fans discussing your music and it's still on like our fan page.
12:14
You know like it's still like they clearly want to hang around, they want to stick through it. You see these comments everybody well, and, and they're listening.
12:24 - Mel (Host)
Yeah, that's what I was gonna.
12:25 - Apple (Host)
Yeah, they're really paying attention you know, they're totally paying attention. If they're, because that's like what fish fans do, to fish that note that second part, that like they're really paying attention and dissecting it, like you said, like wow, I guess you kind of want that.
12:41 - Mel (Host)
Yeah, so like yeah, in the of years have y'all done anything different or more, or anything that you have in the past that you feel like warrants? You know maybe the different type of touring that you're doing now?
12:58 - John (Guest)
I don't know so much different, like, I think our team, our team around us, has gotten more dialed in. Okay, it's been good and I think, as as things have scaled, we've all adapted to that and everyone has their. You know, our booking agent is amazing, our managers are amazing, yeah, but a lot of it feels the same. We're still loading in the same four pieces of gear. Yeah, that we've been doing for the last seven years. Yeah, uh, it's the same, like little stool I have from target so and it's like, it's a weird thing of like we're playing.
13:34 - Kevin (Guest)
We're playing for this incredible amount of people on this tour. We're only playing 30 minutes and we're like we get off stage and we're like, oh man, I got like another 45 to an hour like heaters ready to go, like I'm, I'm amped up now, so it's like we're playing less. Yeah, okay, but the headline.
13:51 - Aaron (Host)
The headline runs coming up, yeah well, I mean back to like people commenting on your stuff. First of all, like, like Mel said, they're listening. And I just wonder, though I have thin skin when it comes to that shit. I do that kind of stuff would like two negative comments we've gotten.
14:14 - Mel (Host)
And it was like years apart, in seven years I still feel that shit.
14:19 - John (Guest)
Yeah, I did. I'm with you.
14:22 - Aaron (Host)
Does it help you or hurt you? Because I fucked me up yeah, I had.
14:30 - John (Guest)
I had a really interesting when we put our album out a couple weeks ago. We released it on a friday and it felt so good. It was like two years, thousands of hours worth of work finally out in the world, right, and then, uh, receiving mostly like 99 great feedback a couple ones in there that are just like meh, a little disappointed. But even I felt that even the even like the good feedback I felt like I wanted to crawl under a blanket for two days. It was like when you put your your art out there and then you're just whether it's good or bad, you're getting feedback on it made me just feel uncomfortable for a few days yeah, yeah, yeah, and now it's out there.
15:17 - Mel (Host)
I know that, yeah, once it's out there, there's no taking it back weird too, because you're working your ass off for it and you think it's dope yourself, you're putting it out and then somebody has the fucking nerve to be like I don't like that beat or I don't like that line, but also like you want them to come to your show so you don't want to say shit. But that's so hard, I guess. As a creative, does it ever get easier? Does it get better? Does does it not annoy you or bother you as much? Like is it like the certain time a month that you know what I mean?
15:53 - Kevin (Guest)
like yeah, yeah well, I I think what's nice is like I don't think it affects us in terms of like we don't think about it when we're working on songs, like, like, like we already we already have our own things that might get in the way of us getting to where we want, and like we're working through that rather than thinking about what a fan is thinking about, like, like, like. Whatever comment we might have read a week ago, like, like that doesn't affect how we do the thing we like doing. Yeah, it affects.
16:20
Like you know how fast you can fall asleep, or uh, or when you wake up and it's the first thing you read like you're like whether it's good or bad, like you said it's, it's a, it can be overwhelming and uh you know, I, I, I wonder what it was like for the dudes when, like you, had to wait for, like the newspaper article right that week to come out like that. But that's even way heavier because if that's a when you're out of the authority, your album gets trashed. Those are all our favorite albums.
16:47 - John (Guest)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it gets panned. Thank, lean on and lick each other's wounds. Yeah, we got negative comment. We're like fuck that bozo, yeah, that's it yeah that's what we got here he doesn't get it clearly very much the way aaron gets his feelings hurt.
17:08 - Apple (Host)
I'm kind of like, oh well, like we piss people off, it's still attention and mel's like fuck it yeah, like mel's, like fuck you, you need to check your expectations, because we're doing what we love at the end of the day, no matter what somebody else says I just feel like with this it's like I never wanted to do this.
17:25 - Mel (Host)
I came in kind of like I got taken, I got dragged into it so I never cared about anybody knowing who the fuck I am or what my opinion is about. So, like I don't have any ties emotionally to it. I know we put out a good product, I know we're awesome and sincere and so, and okay, maybe you didn't like that interview or that person or whatever, that's not on me we did the best that we could Like we're, we're engaging, we engaging. So I guess, like my, I feel like our performance is, whether you like it or not, that's not the point. We're putting out good stuff, so we don't need to like spend time on that shit.
18:07 - Aaron (Host)
I think more of where I'm coming from is like when I'm creating. After that I'll hear that shit in the back of my head, Like your intro was too long and the fucking thing and the dude. But you guys just said you're not doing that, you're. You've got each other to kind of check yourselves.
18:24 - John (Guest)
And yeah, I think that we we do a good job of really trying to just make what we think is cool and generally, if we feel, if we're into it, you know firm believers that authenticity in all of this is the most important thing. Yes, and we try to be that always and it's cool, like you know. You see where we are. Like we said, two years ago to now we haven't really changed anything and it's cool to see it sort of picking up.
18:56 - Apple (Host)
Yeah, you guys are always stylish af, for sure, man hey, that's my dog, yeah they are man. It's true, every clip I see like the, the new video and stuff, it's like oh, that new video with the big feet or the the videographer man.
19:16 - Mel (Host)
How did you guys score that guy?
19:19 - Aaron (Host)
Like that is the coolest shit You're dope You're so dope Right on man I love that whole aesthetic.
19:28 - Mel (Host)
It matches, it feels like you guys. It's amazing yeah.
19:34 - John (Guest)
Gingy's a little tuckered out right now.
19:36 - Mel (Host)
He doesn't have to talk about it. Yeah, he's fine. He's amazing. Yeah, gingy's a little tuckered out right now. He doesn't have to talk about it.
19:38 - John (Guest)
Yeah, he's fine but he's amazing and like truly. It feels like we found a match made in heaven with him coming out on the road and actually can I? Say something yeah you boys are a blessing to work with. It's incredible, and you stick a camera in front of these guys and they give you something hilarious to work with every single time. So it's awesome, so it's easy.
20:01 - Mel (Host)
It's easy work.
20:03 - John (Guest)
Absolutely. It's just fun, it's a good time.
20:05 - Mel (Host)
Hell yeah.
20:06 - John (Guest)
Right on, he's the guy right there, are you?
20:08 - Aaron (Host)
talking about going to the festival.
20:10 - Mel (Host)
Well, no, it's the one where they're on the couch with their feet then also. Then he did something with the festival, right, you guys were on a set and then he blew your head up all big and you started yeah, he's been doing it.
20:21 - John (Guest)
We've been kind of trying to mess around with a bunch of weird tricks on these things. Jingy's just like been it's cool he. We give him the freedom to just go ahead and be creative because he knows what he's doing. And, uh, yeah, as long as as Kevin and I can kind of dance around, it's going to look cool.
20:40 - Kevin (Guest)
Yeah, we like being on camera as much as we're like. Oh, you know.
20:45 - Apple (Host)
Oh no, get that out of my face.
20:46 - Mel (Host)
Stop it Wait go on my left side.
20:53 - Kevin (Guest)
But it is. We're like every band is a short form content creator. Now we are suddenly all in an improv group or something like this is kind of bananas dude, right, okay, so can you talk about that, like, how did you amp up that?
21:06 - Mel (Host)
like what? How do you decide where it's gonna go or what? What you're gonna do? Like all of a sudden, that's not you know, like you never had to do that before, and then the last few years now it's like this it's a necessity.
21:18 - Aaron (Host)
Now I need a skit for every tour announcement.
21:21 - John (Guest)
Yeah, it's. It's so weird because even two years ago we put our last album out. That wasn't a thing. So it's ever evolving, yeah.
21:30 - Kevin (Guest)
I feel like we're lucky in that, like John did theater stuff in high school, I was always kind of making videos as a kid, things like. Like John did theater stuff in high school, I was always kind of making videos as a kid, things like even doing this hip hop world. It's like it's been a part of that, just performing to the camera and being a character.
21:45 - John (Guest)
And real quick. I didn't just do theater, I was Charlie Brown, and you're a good man, charlie Brown.
21:52 - Kevin (Guest)
Excuse me, yeah, but like we were like you know, we have, we have our back and we just, I think we just like it, we enjoy stuff like that, but I can't imagine being like a incredible blues guitarist and then having to be like what fucking skit about barbecue are we gonna do for the next tour?
22:09 - Aaron (Host)
yeah, that's miserable and everybody has to do it yeah, it's not just you guys, it's every fucking band yeah, everyone, the trey goose one was a great one. Uh, when they did that yes, like the peanut butter and chocolate. Yeah, it's, it's real good. It's tough, like period to make music, put your art out. We're talking about like getting negative comments and all that shit. Like just that by itself, that's hard now. Okay, now we got to go on tour and we're living in a van for however long, and that's hard.
22:42
And now you're short form content creators and people are commenting this this sucks on that, or whatever we love it and yeah yeah, and so I mean, I guess none of us could ever foresee that this was the way the business was moving. Do you think that the social media thing has helped or hurt the scene?
23:07 - John (Guest)
the business- oh yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, so tough yeah yeah, yes, yes, yeah, that's so tough, yeah, um, we wouldn't. I can't imagine how did people used to like go to find out about stuff.
23:27
And I'm not, we're, we're not that young, I mean, we're 34 yeah you know, we grew up in the 90s but I just couldn't imagine being where we've gotten without social media, even our, our facebook fan page, the stranger verse. We started kind of on a whim. We like didn't really want to do it, and it's taken over its own thing now. It exists beyond what we intended. Well, um, but yeah, that we were just. We ate lunch an hour and a half ago and then we're like we gotta get some content.
23:59 - Kevin (Guest)
We're dancing in front of the mcdonald's and people were honking at us and we're those fucking people, yeah yeah, with the fucking phone in my hand doing this, yeah, thing yep, uh, it's definitely easier when things are going well, like I think, I think when we were playing these like really shitty shows, and then we'd be like, all right time to dance in front of mcdonald's we were like we're like nah, I'm not today, I can't, I can't, I think I'm sick. Like don't have it I'm playing red rocks.
24:29 - Aaron (Host)
Yeah, y'all dance in front of the fucking phone. Mcdonald's, don't give me the phone. I actually was just having this conversation with a buddy of ours, his name's Mr Cam. On Instagram, he does like jaded fish.
24:41 - John (Guest)
I love Mr Cam, I follow him.
24:44 - Aaron (Host)
Yeah, we were together last week and we were talking about like no simple road and making content and I was like man, I just like the thing that I work the hardest on. I make these like graphics for every episode and they'll get like I'll post that shit up and it gets like 25 likes. I work two hours on that thing. Like yeah, I could post a picture no, I'm not bullshit of the dog sleeping over there on the floor and say this week's episode is with little stranger. We get like 5000 likes of the picture on the floor and say this week's episode is with little stranger. We get like 5 000 likes.
25:19
So the picture of the dog on the floor, but the thing that I busted my ass on gets 25 that, and that's that's the hard part of like. None of us know the score with the thing, like it's just random shit, so there's no way to like, plan or make it happen yeah, we talk about that all the time with, like the, anytime it's about a show or an announcement.
25:43 - John (Guest)
Same thing we paid to have a poster made or a graphic and kevin thank god for kevin does all of our social media stuff, which is a full-time job. Yeah and uh. But yeah, then we'll just post like a picture of my butt and yeah, it blows up.
26:00 - Kevin (Guest)
Yeah but but that's not uh, it's not reassuring for, like, the future, like if you're, uh, if you're a kid coming up making music, like where are you going to be spending this time where? And then, and then, uh, and then the people that are authentic are like every post is like man, I'm the only one out here being authentic.
26:27 - Aaron (Host)
And then you're like okay, just stop also saying that too exactly exactly, yeah, I, I was saying that too, like maybe I should just get on there and be like this week on no simple road. We have the thing boring, I already fell asleep can't even do it like, but I'm being authentic now. No, yeah, I yeah it's, it's it's so hard and but I saw you do something really really dope. You guys did something really cool. You like broke down how you created some of your, some of your stuff, what was yeah what was? How did that come about?
27:07 - John (Guest)
yeah, I, um, we did it for two songs on off of our last record, but they were much more in-depth. I did did like there were like 30 minute youtube videos and then again, as things have evolved over the last couple years, I've followed some other producers who will break down the songs like that it's just like a selfie video, it doesn't. We used to think it had to be really quality and get the actual audio from the logic session into it, and now it's you can just do a selfie video. But I, we, I do all our production and we have a little home studio in charleston and, um, you know, we spend hours and hours in there working on these tunes and it seems to get a great response. People like to get a glimpse into. You know what, what really goes into making a song from start to finish it's.
27:57 - Aaron (Host)
It's fascinating because, like, we're hearing the finished product right when you put the song out, but like getting a look behind the curtain and seeing how how it kind of evolved and came together. And then also, I think what's really super interesting about it is I'm fans of you guys and the music, like both things right, and so I get a glimpse into how your, your head works a little bit too, and and why the music is the way it is. I think that's what's really really interesting about that, because I've, like you, I've seen a couple of others do the same thing and for the same reason. You know what I mean. Like to see it come together is really cool, and then to know why it came together that way is equally as, yeah, man, I appreciate hearing that so much because, um, yeah, I'm.
28:51 - John (Guest)
We're in love with that process, the creating and showing the fun things that happen too in a studio session that you don't they're in the song, like, oh, we try to keep like little moments of audio clips that might have happened while you're creating it and then you can like solo that track and hear us cracking up in the background. That's and that's that kind of nice, like tangible quality to a song and it puts the fun emotion into it and two years is.
29:22 - Aaron (Host)
Is this album?
29:24 - Kevin (Guest)
it took two years of yeah, yeah, I guess a year and a half really of making it, yeah because we had been like a trip around saturn was most of those songs were originally being pitched to the label that we were a part of. That we got out of right and then it was like pretty much ready to go and then we were working with ineffable and so like they, they kind of took us under their wing and just they're a lot more like, a lot more independent, very much like like let's see what you guys got, let's work with that, let's see how to work it like catered to you rather than just like push you into what, whatever thing is working I don't know. But but yeah, we pretty much started with those and it it's. I can't think of many that were started before it. No, I don't think anywhere started before it. I will love, I'd love to say Supernova was finished six days before the album came out. What, yeah?
30:22 - John (Guest)
We ran it down to the wire. It was really cool. Actually it was the last song that we did for it. But we had to submit the whole album a month before the release to Ineffable, okay, and we were trying to work on what was going to be kev's break too, yeah, and but it was a beat that we had listened to a bunch. We were a little bit burnt out on all the songs at this point because it was like the tedious part of wrapping up the album, making sure everything was perfect. We were just kind of spent on the music and, um, we were trying to work on that song and you could feel in the room that we were just like uh. And so then I showed kevin I had written a little voice memo in bed the night before of a chord progression and like a verse and we sat there we're like it was due the next day and um, dude, we still get homework.
31:16 - Aaron (Host)
Yeah, it was due the next day. You're gonna fail, wow yeah, but you could feel.
31:22 - John (Guest)
It felt like in the room, uh, working on something new felt so good and our energy just got boosted and then. So then we had to submit it as a demo to the label that they could then submit to the streaming platforms and, as they had like a placeholder for the song, and then we went on tour. So then we got back from tour and what we had.
31:46 - Kevin (Guest)
We had like three days, yeah, because I think I think we did two sessions to to really, I mean, but yeah, we did it. We did almost two days straight at point.
31:56 - John (Guest)
We pulled an all-nighter to finish this song up and we got it in six days before it came out. Damn, and F-Bull was not stoked about that.
32:09 - Kevin (Guest)
It's our process.
32:11 - Apple (Host)
It was just one song. We had all the rest.
32:14 - John (Guest)
Yeah, the rest were good to go.
32:16 - Aaron (Host)
You talk about. Like you know you heard the song so many times. You burn out like if you say the same word over and over again. It kind of like stops being a word after a while it loses all meaning you're like that. It does a bit.
32:39 - John (Guest)
I go through phases because it depends on my mood. Some days I'll put on the album and just be so amped about it and love every song. And then some days I'll put it on and be like, oh my God, skip this.
32:56 - Kevin (Guest)
And then I feel like I get to the point, too, where it's like where we are closing up the album. I'm listening almost exclusively to our stuff. Anytime I'm listening to music just to like see if there's any other notes I might have. And then when I listen to music that's fully released and out, and then I'm like I'm like, oh, this song's so slow compared to this really fast song I just listened to, you need faster music yeah, and then you're like yeah you find yourself because you've listened to it so much there's no magic left in it that when you hear a song that that is new and has magic to you, you're like like, oh, and see, this is good music.
33:27
Well, we're doing this shit.
33:29 - John (Guest)
I think it's always important to remember the moment that you make the song and how excited you are in that moment, because that's how you know it's good, we're like pumped about it generally. It's going to be pretty cool.
33:42 - Aaron (Host)
We'll move on quickly if we're not, yeah, we will well, we have a ton of like half song ideas that are just never evolved beyond that, because just didn't really have that sauce right I, I would think too, like maybe when a song gets to that point, even if you're playing it in your set or something, when the crowd reacts to it, it can bring that magic back to right definitely, definitely.
34:07 - Kevin (Guest)
That's Kama Sumatra has been been one. We've been doing a lot on this last tour and it's like because even that, like we said earlier, that was one that got probably some of the most comments of people being like I'm unsure about this one doesn't sound like some of their other stuff and live it's been like a smash every night and like I'm like I'm blown away by how well it's received live and people will keep singing the song as if it should keep going after we've ended it a few times. This is bananas.
34:37 - Mel (Host)
It's dope and super like vibey, so I can't understand you getting anything negative. It feels like an anthem, you know like a, like a theme. It feels good to sing.
34:54 - Apple (Host)
So, and it was a little, it was a little different than the other tracks and that's what's cool about it, like yeah, stands out we wanted to.
34:59 - John (Guest)
We intentionally put that out first because it is so different that we kind of were like it had been a while since we put out a single yeah and so expected a bit of that, like maybe not backlash, but some people just being a little confused maybe yeah, that's, that's really, I think it has gone over really well since that it's, it's weird, like I don't know what we expect as fans of shit.
35:28 - Aaron (Host)
I just don't get it like we want. We want this, we want this. I want the same thing I always got, but I want it new well like they better all be bangers or I'm done with this band but then you got. You have bands like show your range.
35:42 - Mel (Host)
I hate your new stuff you got bands like king gizzard that are.
35:46 - Aaron (Host)
You know, they're putting out a death metal album and then a full on jazz album and a bluegrass album and their fans are like, yeah, so I don't know there's. No, I don't.
35:56 - John (Guest)
We're all crazy, that's what they've done it correctly. They've been like an enigma the whole time. Of genre lists yeah, I think the ultimate is you know, fish fans are never pleased. No, no, no.
36:14 - Aaron (Host)
I think I might be the one fish fan that likes everything they do.
36:16 - Apple (Host)
I'm, I'm like yeah, yeah, I, I get it but they would wouldn't corner to be like we'll break this, okay, we can all come up with like okay, well, that wasn't as good as the one I saw last year down with disease was. I, we all can go into that. That's that character. We've done it on the porch, we just don't air it in public. We're we're not going on the forum and like fuck yeah mike's base was not as good.
36:39
You know it's like I don't want to share that, but we do it as friends, that's true?
36:43 - John (Guest)
yeah, it's so funny to me that people will buy 180 tickets and then go and complain at the show Right and with Fish, with the history of Fish, the most annoying to us is the ones that still compare.
37:00 - Mel (Host)
It's like well, it wasn't 94 Hampton or whatever, and it's like it's 2024, man.
37:04 - Apple (Host)
Come on, we were at Fish. Mexico.
37:06 - Aaron (Host)
And they had just like completely destroyed that night and we were walking out of the show. I was spun out of my head and there was this group of like older dudes walking and I was just fucking around. I was talking to them. I was like, yeah, the show was good, but it wasn't as good as 97 Hampton. Mike's bass sounded like shit. And this dude turned around. He's like what the fuck man? I was like I'm just kidding bro, I'm just joking. That was fucking awesome. Yeah, we're picky people, man, and and the music scene, especially now because of the availability of streaming and and social media, people are like they expect new shit fast and they're you know they're they'll listen to it for 30 seconds and if they're not completely hooked in that 30 seconds, they're on their way to the next fucking shiny object. That's flying past, is it? Do you guys feel that kind of pressure when you're, when you're making new stuff, to like create the shiny object?
38:05 - John (Guest)
Yeah, yeah, ish. I think we try not to lean into it too much, but it's there lingering when you see what's popping off and again going back to like the comparing thing here, you see other bands who are in your kind, of our same status, and their views are way higher or something, and you know, you just like what are we not doing correctly? Right now you just feel like what are we not doing correctly, right?
38:29 - Mel (Host)
now it feels like you guys have such a unique. You know you guys are so different than a lot of whatever is mainstream or commercially. You know, known that I would have a really hard time trying to compare you to anything.
38:44 - Aaron (Host)
Yeah, I was going to ask. You just said that you guys are in a class by yourselves. As far as I'm concerned, I can't think of anybody that's like comparable or contemporary, with little stranger. Who would you consider?
38:59 - Kevin (Guest)
Thanks. Oh yeah, thank you, and.
39:01 - Aaron (Host)
I mean that I'm not just blowing smoke up your ass.
39:04 - Mel (Host)
I think we all feel like that over here, because when we first found out about you we were super stoked, like holy shit and like also just kind of how y'all went into, like you're part of the jam scene now too.
39:15 - Aaron (Host)
Yeah, it's fucking weird, but it matches it totally matches.
39:19 - Mel (Host)
It doesn't feel like out of left field, it just feels like, oh shit, they're a part of it too.
39:25 - Apple (Host)
And Aaron gets annoyed with me, which I don't do it when we talk to artists now, but I used to like. I thought it was a compliment to be like oh, you sound like tom petty and he's like don't do that the only one that's ever popped in my mind when I first heard you guys was like this is this reminds me of the beastie boys, but like modernized, and style like different yeah hell yeah, yeah the way you guys read the back and forth and the way you do it is just mind blowing.
39:52 - Aaron (Host)
Is there anybody that you guys keep an eye on? That's like contemporary that you consider.
40:00 - Kevin (Guest)
Oh man, I mean I don't know. I think it's tough Like a funny one. We've gotten before is we've been called 22 pilots. It was an insult. Yeah, that was an insult.
40:12 - John (Guest)
A funny one we've gotten before is we've been called 22 Pilots.
40:13 - Aaron (Host)
What it was an insult.
40:14 - Kevin (Guest)
Yeah, that was an insult, but also I have liked a lot of stuff that group's done over the years. I haven't listened to too much recently.
40:20 - Aaron (Host)
I've been to a 22-minute pilot show.
40:22 - Kevin (Guest)
I think it's tough. We tend to look backwards at music. When we want to reference stuff or work on stuff, it's usually like oh, like you said, like a beastie boys track or I don't know back some of these old, like just older, recordings.
40:38 - John (Guest)
Um yeah, yeah, and, and I don't think we, I think our goal is not to be the like contemporary popular thing, yeah, so, like you said, we, it's so cool that we've entered into the jam scene and you know, touring with andy frasco was huge. On that, pairing with our uh manager, vince iowinski, who manages umpries, they've kind of like accepted us into that scene and but then we're so deeply rooted in the reggae scene, that's true, and you know, touring with Stick Figure now, who kind of blows my mind how big this band is Really.
41:17
I think that we knew it before this tour, but now we're really seeing like the band. They're incredible. Is it like the?
41:28 - Mel (Host)
numbers or like. What is it that's so different? Selling out Red Rocks? Selling out Red Rocks, all right. And um? Is it like the numbers or like what? What is it that's so different? Selling selling out red rocks all right there's no, it's every show.
41:36 - John (Guest)
It's like, yeah, the greek red, two nights of red rocks, uh, everything's sold out and it's uh, kids to you know, six-year-old women, yeah, like love this band and it's really amazing to be part like in that.
41:51 - Kevin (Guest)
It's crazy and I think we probably, like I think you you're more in tune with some of the jam bands and have seen the bigger jam bands, whereas, like the reggae scene that we're in a lot of times is like we've seen our peers we haven't seen as many of, like the bigger guys and to see, to see that is like it's like oh shit, okay, like not that we were counting them out, but almost a like we just almost weren't aware.
42:14
You know, right, like you guys are saying, well, I'm not sure where we exactly fit, we're always happy to be there and it's been like, you know, stick figures getting us up unfreeze has gotten us up, and I think that's like we capitalize on those moments so well so that the people in the scene are like all right, this band is pushing them in front of me. Clearly there's something to check out, yeah, and then we don't take that for granted. We make sure those moments are like usually a pretty like. You know we've, we've had those moments be like okay, we just watched our numbers go crazy because someone, someone got us up on stage and we're like we, we can do it because we're rappers.
42:50 - John (Guest)
Well, and what's so cool? Yeah, it's like we can. You know, reggae and jam haven't had hip hop really in either scene in a while. But we, a couple of weeks ago, got up and did a Fuji song with Humphries and then on this tour, we're doing a Mary J Blige song with Stick Figure and we get to just rap over these songs with two completely different bands and two different worlds. But like we're just rapping over it, we're like the. We're the guys you call on right now.
43:21 - Aaron (Host)
I guess and, like I said, there is nobody that's doing the thing that you guys are doing that was the thing that the first time I reached out to you guys a couple years ago. That's why I was I'll be honest I was never a fan of hip-hop like these guys were, but I wasn't, and you guys, like, opened me up to the whole thing. Ever since then I'm like this is which which blew us away.
43:46 - Apple (Host)
We were like erin's bringing this to us. This is usually something we would be trying to make him listen to and he was like you got to see this shit and like the video and all of it and you were yeah, sprung, yeah, thanks for getting him, and since then he has become more open to hip-hop yeah, older, that's what I'm saying knew everything. It opened his because of them.
44:09 - Kevin (Guest)
Yeah that's awesome, yeah man that's why you got that thug life t-shirt on.
44:13 - Aaron (Host)
That's right but it's, you can't see, it's Jerry of course it's, jerry.
44:24 - Apple (Host)
Aaron came up with the design and is actually sells. Well, was up on our merch. It's still there.
44:29 - Mel (Host)
It's still up on our merch on no Simple Road we gotta get some merch yeah, alright, deal so guys, what's your reception when you're going in front of like a stick figure audience, like you know, like they're sold out, but you know how people come in late to you know they ignore the first act, whatever. What's your reception? Are you guys getting the numbers in too, that people are actually seeing you? Like what's the deal there?
44:56 - John (Guest)
yeah, generally, um, I mean what we're six or seven shows into this tour.
45:00 - Kevin (Guest)
Yeah, we've only had one where it was like just I think they changed door time, set times, everything was like pushed up and, like you know, not a ton of people got in but like these fans are showing out early.
45:10 - John (Guest)
Yeah, everyone's been pretty good and we're seeing a lot of little stranger fans out there. Um, yeah, really feeling good about it. You know, you see the t-shirts and signs and stuff. Um, and I think the, I think the people who are not familiar with our music, I think at this point in that scene have heard the name at least, and um seem to be very receptive to what we're doing to open the night that's dope, that's dope.
45:39 - Aaron (Host)
So back to the red rocks thing like do you get nervous before big ass show like that?
45:48 - Kevin (Guest)
I think we'll have some butterflies before that I did the last time yeah, I mean, I feel like we we usually talk about it pretty similarly of like at a big one, like that it's not as nervous as we're just anxious to get out there. We're like ready to do our thing. We like that's like you know, we had two 10 hour, 10 hour drives to get to red rocks these next two days, so it's like that's our 30 minutes of fucking actual freedom and fun. So I'm like ready to do it and I also I think I just don't want to mess up my 30 minutes of magic there or whatever, but it's not, it's not nervous, it's not nervous. I like I know we do.
46:22 - John (Guest)
I love the other night when we got up with uh, stick figure to do this mary j blige song originally the first couple nights we had just been doing like our own verses over it and then we sing the chorus on the it's a family affair, the let's get it Really weird lyrics in that and I I tried to learn Mary J's verse to do it and it was the first time in a long time. I had felt nervous before getting on stage and it felt really good, like I felt super alive, because we just do it so much that I haven't really felt that uh, like kind of anxiety, excitement in a while. Yeah, so I know, at red rocks, yeah, we did it last year, um, but it was, we were like first of seven on a hip-hop bill and so this year, you know that was an instance of the doors opening and we're playing, yeah, for 15 minutes as people came in, but still on that stage it was.
47:24 - Mel (Host)
There's nothing like it I can't even imagine do you save your good stuff at that point?
47:28 - John (Guest)
you know what I?
47:28 - Mel (Host)
mean like there's only a few people that do you save your good stuff. At that point you know what I mean. Like if there's only a few people that do you save it, or do you just like you know what?
47:34 - John (Guest)
Fuck it. They missed it. Yeah, it was just we, we. I think we got 20 minutes last year. Last time my niece was there and I was like this one's for you, nora, let's get this yeah.
48:00 - Apple (Host)
If she were the red rocks, that would have been just as cool. That's rad. So I'm I'm curious as something from like a process level and and well, uh, talent level, you guys are doing something like the way you, the way your lyrics come out. It is so fast, the back and forth and everything. It's just mind-blowing to me and most people because you got to be so spot on as I I'm sure there has been. Has there been moments where, like you take the stage and it you're tongue-tied and you got to spit, you know, a thousand lyrics in a moment, as it happened? Or like I imagine, with two of you, two like one would maybe pick it up a little, but it just seems so tough what you guys do.
48:32 - John (Guest)
I think that I get more tongue tied trying to say, like how's everyone doing tonight? That's harder. Yeah, the songs, the songs.
48:45 - Kevin (Guest)
I think we like know what to do. I always say that I'm like, if I have to think for a second, I'm like what's the first line of my verse coming up? It's already gone, it's ruined, it's ruined Okay. And like, like again, we have each other to lean on, we can. We have each other to lean on, we can't. We'll like catch each other like maybe slipping for a second. Every so often I think I've had like two, I've had two maybe this run, but we do pick each other up like. And then the only times where it's like silly is like I was having too much fun the one day and climbing up a side of a stage like an incline and then forgot I had to start rapping again and was just like having too much fun and I was like. I was like I'm not even mad at myself for that, that's a great that's a great moment yeah, hell yeah I.
49:24 - Aaron (Host)
I would think that like rapping, like that, is a lot like meditation, where you've got to just be in it and as soon as you're like I'm meditating, then you're and it's your.
49:34 - Kevin (Guest)
Yeah, it's over, so you guys a thousand percent you guys really are that good, I'll see somebody with like a weird hat on and I'll get lost, and then I'll be like, ah shit, the whole thing the whole, all of performing is that way, like as soon as you think about it.
49:49 - John (Guest)
That's why we we've been doing so many like one-off festivals over the last two months where you just fly up, play and then fly back home. And those are tough, I've found, to get into the rhythm, because you're we have to break all our gear down, fly it up and put all the gear together, get to the show, play, whereas when you're on tour, like two weeks into tour, you hit this sweet spot of just everything the muscle memory's back yeah it's like you can do no wrong at that point, yeah.
50:21
But it's tough to uh come off like two weeks rest and and just go play what's supposed to be a big festival with like pressure around it well, I just want to say that two years ago, when we saw your what?
50:36 - Mel (Host)
two years ago, when we saw your peach set man, we loved you from the podcast but, like after that, you gave us a shout out from stage.
50:46
All those people all those people like we were in the crowd, we were feeling and hearing what people were saying. It was so fucking lit like every. I think that so many people were just like hadn't seen you y'all before and they were fucking on it like they were so excited, man, and I just I I because your, your stuff was new to me and we'd never seen that. It was like such a cool thing to see the way that you guys work together.
51:16
That's really what I wanted to say like I love the dynamic, I love how you guys work together and then you compliment each other and you know being how you guys work together and then you compliment each other and you know being with these guys like they're, like you know that they're bffs forever. So it felt so much like seeing that relationship, but in a different way, like how you. You know how you compliment each other and I just freaking love you guys, like that's it. I love you guys, no question there. We'll always support you and I always think what you're doing is dope. I don't care.
51:44 - Aaron (Host)
What a dumb fan says that's all I wanted to let him talk shit. We got your boy and after after that peach festival set too it's right
51:54 - Apple (Host)
there's a lot of. There's people in the crowd that were around us that we're hearing and seeing you for the first time and stuff that we're so impressed that remember afterwards we had a whole group of people that were asking that they're like they're like so you've had these guys on your show who are you, oh yeah, it was good yeah, it was like.
52:12
It was like cross promotion. We're like yeah, we're no simple road, here's a sticker and yeah, this is little stranger, they were on the show. You should listen. It was like a whole thing.
52:21 - Mel (Host)
Yeah, it was really cool. I just we'd never got to talk about it, so I wanted to throw that out there. Not like we're on old shit, we're already in 2024. That's gone.
52:29 - Aaron (Host)
I keep thinking it's 2025. But yeah, man, I just wanted to say that because y'all need to know.
52:34 - John (Guest)
No, man, I mean, you know, that's what it's all about. Like we get to, we're so pumped to see, um, your, your guy's name pop up again when vince had forwarded an email over. We were like, oh yeah, we know them, let's go, let's do this. It's really great.
52:51 - Aaron (Host)
You know, we appreciate you guys putting us on fuck, yeah, um, I know this, I'm not gonna ask you. There's 12 songs on the album. I don't want you to tell, like what's your favorite song and I don't care. But we like play a little bit of the artist going into the interview, right, and I I'll usually pick the song.
53:14 - Kevin (Guest)
I want you guys to pick the song hell yeah which one no, don't, don't you, don't you make me do work right now.
53:21 - Mel (Host)
Kevin, it's too late.
53:25 - Kevin (Guest)
The question has been posed. I mean I'm going to say my two and then I don't know if your two maybe. I can't think of any of the names of the songs. I think Buster Brain or Live Illegal would be, but it's like I think Live Illegal's, like maybe the more approachable, give them like a little bit of the live vibe. Busted Brain, but then Busted Brain is like let's show them how odd it can get.
53:53 - Aaron (Host)
Yeah, write it down for me.
53:54 - John (Guest)
Busted Brain. It's the opening track. We love it.
53:57 - Kevin (Guest)
Are you keeping notes over there?
53:58 - Mel (Host)
Oh yeah, I drew a sketch of both of y'all.
54:01 - Kevin (Guest)
It's pretty fucking weird it is, I'm doodling.
54:04 - Mel (Host)
Is it an ugly caricature? Kind of, but it's cute. It's ugly and cute.
54:08 - Apple (Host)
Show it to them. Yeah, I was going to say, now you let them inside the journal. She does this.
54:13 - Aaron (Host)
There's one of these for every artist we've had on the show. Very few of the artists have seen their sketch she's got she's got two of these like completely filled with the weirdest shit from every interview.
54:32 - Apple (Host)
And she doesn't share them, although we've been like you need to let so-and-so see their portrait. She's like no, this is how.
54:38 - Mel (Host)
I'm going to be honest on how it started. These guys were like oh, we're interviewing so-and-so from Dark Star Orchestra and I'm like I don't know who the fuck that is. So I would have to literally write down names and like what they did and like, as they're talking, I'm like writing notes so that I can like ask intelligent questions and be part of the conversation. And then it just started like people would say dope ass shit during the interviews and I'm like I want to remember that and kind of like you guys, I love lyrics and so I would just write stuff and then later on I'd like either write about it or just like have it. So it just became like a thing where it's like like no simple road notes but like I've got almost everybody that we've interviewed in these and it's fucking it, it's funny and that's so cool it's.
55:24 - John (Guest)
Uh, that's good, that's got to be archived.
55:25 - Kevin (Guest)
Yeah, right, yeah subscribe to the patreon. Yeah, that's right.
55:28 - Mel (Host)
That's it right there, um but I wanted to ask a question, since we brought up um cam. Um, you know a little tribute to him. What's your best show ever that you guys have played? And it might be different for both of you, but what do you feel like is the best show ever that you guys have played?
55:42 - Aaron (Host)
and it might be different for both of you, but what do?
55:44 - John (Guest)
you feel like is the best show ever? Not that you've been to. Yeah, you've played. Um, damn, what do you? What do you think? Oh man, I was fucking thinking about this the other day. Really my favorite show I think that we've, at least in the last couple years in Little Stranger 2.0, is. We played a brewery in Bend, oregon, last year and it was this tiny. It looked like it should have held like 150 people and they sold 400 tickets and it was like mob and I just felt we were on this, this tiny stage, people right up on top of us, and I thought the energy in that room and our whole set was just electric. We sent jingy into the. It was his crowd surf to the bar. It was awesome. Yeah, that was it. That was in. That was silver mood. Yeah, silver brewing brewing yeah, and ben threw it down the other day too. Ben pops off yeah they like to party.
56:48 - Kevin (Guest)
You got a favorite. Um, I, I mean, I love that one. I I maybe just the headline, janice one, we did the job. Oh yeah, in florida said just it was like our biggest show, so it was cool to be like this is truly our fans and they showed up like like the, we like pushed how much. Like you know, every day we're unsure of how many people actually give a shit. So it's like to to like book our biggest show and way bigger than many cities, and have it sell out, roll into that and then like we had two giant skeletons on the side of the stage like proper lighting and things.
57:21 - John (Guest)
It was just like it felt fun and it felt like a reward for a lot of other tiny shit gigs we like, we sent like pictures of that crowd to our parents.
57:32 - Aaron (Host)
You know we're like it's working remember when you said it wasn't gonna work well yeah well, fuck guys. Thanks for hanging out with us.
57:43 - John (Guest)
We love you guys, we wish you were rolling in through Portland.
57:46 - Mel (Host)
We'd hook you up with some dinner chill. That's going to happen next.
57:50 - Apple (Host)
We've got to make sure, when you guys make it up here again, come stay with us. We'd love to host, we'd just love to hang out.
57:59 - Aaron (Host)
Smoke a bowl on the patio.
58:08 - Mel (Host)
You've been to oregon. Oregon has great stuff and it just, it just to be, fun to hang.
58:10 - Apple (Host)
No pressure to create content, guys.
58:11 - John (Guest)
No, that's inevitable content will be created half the time we have the time we have people over, we forget to even take a fucking picture for social media. Yeah, I love that. Yeah, me too. And if you come to Charleston, same, same as up.
58:26 - Aaron (Host)
You got it, man All right. You guys be safe out there.
58:29 - Mel (Host)
Have fun Thanks so much, talk to you soon, cheers. Thanks guys, bye, thank you, bye Aw. Man, wow, man man wow man, those two little sweethearts. That's a really like I hadn't thought of it.
58:46 - Aaron (Host)
What if they changed their name to little?
58:47 - Mel (Host)
sweethearts. That'd be weird. Do you think that it'd have?
58:48 - Aaron (Host)
the same that's a different band.
58:52 - Apple (Host)
Well then, they pitch like like we've been doing this long enough. We're no longer strangers, we're little sweethearts now.
58:59 - Aaron (Host)
No, I hadn't thought of that until earlier today. I was like, holy shit, it really was little stranger that like turned me on to hip-hop yeah, I was.
59:10 - Apple (Host)
I was blown away. When you're, when you're like dude because you didn't play him for me first, you show me the video oh, yeah, let go, my a go yeah, I was like you're really lenny. You were like not just like check this out, you're like stoked on it. I was like. I was like hell, yeah, who the hell is this? And then we listened to the whole thing on.
59:29 - Aaron (Host)
Well, I think the thing that got me with them was that there was a, a psychedelic bent to it yes and that's what pulled me in, like I was. I was like oh, this is different, this isn't just look at my bitches and my chain and my hootie and fucking whatever.
59:49 - Mel (Host)
And they're out there. They couldn't even come up with somebody that they are similar to.
59:53 - Aaron (Host)
No.
59:54 - Mel (Host)
And so, and like I said, they're on the circuit, they're seeing stuff, so it truly is a cool thing to witness success of somebody who is or you know them too that are doing something completely fresh yeah, you know, it's not like derivative. Maybe they have, like you know people yeah influences. Thank you, babe, I couldn't have that word I got you but like yeah, they're doing their own freaking thing and they're bffs and they're like yeah, they don't.
01:00:23
Definitely don't hate each other yet no well, I mean, I'm sure they get on each other's nerves on occasion one I bet everybody does, yeah, and they probably tell each other like leave me alone, kevin, for a minute.
01:00:31 - Apple (Host)
Yeah, right, but I don't know.
01:00:33 - Mel (Host)
I just, I really love them and thanks for coming back on no simple road. You always got a home here all he's going to like.
01:00:40 - Apple (Host)
When we were asked about like. The other thing that they have to me is, it sounds like their influences are from the era of rap. That was not the bitches in the like. Like a day less soul and all the like that. Yeah, Like, like like we're actually got an art for, we're just not talking shit and hating on another crew.
01:01:00 - Mel (Host)
It's, it's fucking fun yeah, you don't got any beef. You just like the art form, so you want to create it with the stuff that's in your head and what you're seeing speaking of beef, we should order some dinner.
01:01:12 - Aaron (Host)
Yeah, all right, food's good, all right. Um, everybody, we will be back. We will be. We will be. That's all folks. We'll be back. We will be. That's all folks. We'll be back on Monday with another edition of the no simple road weekly rewind. If you're new to the show, that is the three of us just hanging out. It's typically not an interview. Sometimes there's somebody here hanging out with us, but sometimes there's not. Most of the times there's not.
01:01:36 - Apple (Host)
It's kind of a catch up of what what we've been doing and what we have.
01:01:43 - Aaron (Host)
coming up and see what's happening, Talking about like current events and weird shit that I find in the news and all that. Anyway, come hang out with us on Monday. We'll be back and until then, take care of each other. Smile at a stranger, a little stranger safety. Third, or a little sweetheart, Hydrate and go go, take your, your dog to go get their nails clipped and be stylish. Af, that's right. We love you all, peace.